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  1. [verwijderd] 27 oktober 2009 22:39

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    quote:

    ron banged schreef:

    [quote=tophound]
    You are a hired pumper. LEAVE this forum please.

    Mensen let niet op hem, hij wordt gewoon ingehuurd om het aandeel omlaag te praten, hij wordt betaald voor elk dubbeltje daling.

    De kracht zit in de herhaling, in de herhaling, een psychologisch bekende methode.

    Trap er niet in.
    [/quote]
    Surely you mean I am a hired BASHER

    Nice try...time to get the usual suspects in on the pumping...and you know who you are...

    How much "profit" has Crucell derived from the biggest deals ever...not including research reimbursement...

    Ebola
    Flucell-Sanofi
    Medimmune
    Wyeth
    J+J

    Answer-about 20 million...and if you are going to argue the J+J deal...watch out. That deal was for Brus's retirement and to give J+J control of the company for 1/20th the value...the Street has spoken on the J+J deal...as much as they can.

    Brus lies every time he says that the other company has gagged him. Of course he can talk about the J+J deal...J+J isn't stopping him...have you ever heard of the other company in a Crucell deal say "We have asked Crucell to be quiet on the details of this deal" No, you haven't. It is Crucell that doesn't want to talk about the details of the deals. Why? Because the deals do not benefit the shareholders...period. If a deal is good you crow about it...if it sucks you say you can't talk about it...simple as that.

    Get rid of Brus and the entire MT...and Oya as well.

    Time to bring in a MT that wants to build shareholder value...FOR REAL

    Hey hired pumpers...this is fun

    simply pick an old post and stick in an irrelevant comment!
  3. [verwijderd] 27 oktober 2009 23:48

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    aossa schreef:

    Ik lees je rotzooi gewoon niet meer, nah...
    Pumpers telling the truthtellers "they are not going to read their shit anymore...classic post.

    Brus needs to go, and the rest of the MT...if this stock is ever going to go up.

    I noticed you didn't say anything about this part of my post...

    "How much "profit" has Crucell derived from the biggest deals ever...not including research reimbursement...

    Ebola
    Flucell-Sanofi
    Medimmune
    Wyeth
    J+J

    Answer-about 20 million...and if you are going to argue the J+J deal...watch out. That deal was for Brus's retirement and to give J+J control of the company for 1/20th the value...the Street has spoken on the J+J deal...as much as they can.

    Brus lies every time he says that the other company has gagged him. Of course he can talk about the J+J deal...J+J isn't stopping him...have you ever heard of the other company in a Crucell deal say "We have asked Crucell to be quiet on the details of this deal" No, you haven't. It is Crucell that doesn't want to talk about the details of the deals. Why? Because the deals do not benefit the shareholders...period. If a deal is good you crow about it...if it sucks you say you can't talk about it...simple as that."

    You can't because it is all true...that is why.

  4. [verwijderd] 28 oktober 2009 07:23

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    Ron , in my opinion, you are right.

    I oft compare Crucell , with LCI ( smartpen )
    which went broke in 2001 and I personally made a file for the AFM, Comm Herkstroter , VEB, Euronext , and Beursprofiel.
    The board, said year after year: "everything is oke"
    But the shareprice, went down, down and down.
    Eventually, the dead body fell out of the cupboard>
    The chart didn;t lie.

    With Crucell , it must be , that some things aren't well.

    Delays, the devil himself : Viesbacher: the dirty old man : The surpremes song.
    And all kinds of other things , we don't know, not yet.

    Otherwise , a venture capitalist would buy
    EVERY SHARE at CURRENT PRICES.

    When a venture capitalist , sees money on THe Street,
    he'll pick it up before someone else does.
    But not here.
    So where is that money in a corner.??

    I don't see it , at the moment.

    But they DON'T!

    So some thing are WRONG, simple as that.
  5. [verwijderd] 28 oktober 2009 07:32

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    Here again, with some addition

    Ron , in my opinion, you are right.

    I oft compare Crucell , with LCI ( smartpen )
    which went broke in 2001 and I personally made a file for the AFM, Comm Herkstroter , VEB, Euronext , and Beursprofiel.
    The board, said year after year: "everything is oke"
    But the shareprice, went down, down and down.
    Eventually, the dead body fell out of the cupboard>
    The chart didn;t lie.

    With Crucell , it must be , that some things aren't well.

    Delays,delays and delays,
    the devil himself : Viesbacher: the dirty old man :

    The surpremes song.

    And all kinds of other things , we don't know,
    not yet.!

    Otherwise , a venture capitalist would buy
    EVERY SHARE at CURRENT PRICES.

    When a venture capitalist , sees money on The Street,
    he'll pick it up before someone else does.
    But not here.
    So where is that money ,
    and in which corner.??

    The Microsoft of the Biotech?

    PerC6 ??

    Left and Right all kinds of other companies, develop their own cell-based
    culture.............

    Why??????

    PerC6 ...was the best.....or NOT??

    I don't see it , at the moment.

    But they DON'T!

    So some thing are WRONG, simple as that.
  7. forum rang 4 harvester 28 oktober 2009 08:08

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    I totally object to comparing Crucell with LCI.
    With LCI I had questions on specific figures, but relied too much on statements of auditors and the like and regretfully did not reduce my stake in time nor did I free the time to publicly state my questions in the AGM. Mr Asseer should get his house and other assets sold for partial compensation of damage done to shareholders.
    The only way you can compare both companies is that they both have an image of innovative powers.
    In the case of Crucell this is supported by the many licenses taken by many parties in the same line of business and the in the case of LCI it was just the words of Sam Asseer. That is a huge difference IMO.

    I recommend you not to reiterate such suggestive lines or even mention LCI anywhere, as it irritates me that I and apparently also you (among many others) were too lazy to really take action in the LCI case.

    With regard to the PPS of Crucell, it is influenced by the current turbulent markets, but over time the improving bottom line will guide investors to a higher appreciation of Crucell IMHO.

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    wilb52 schreef:

    Ron , in my opinion, you are right.

    I oft compare Crucell , with LCI ( smartpen )
    which went broke in 2001 and I personally made a file for the AFM, Comm Herkstroter , VEB, Euronext , and Beursprofiel.
    The board, said year after year: "everything is oke"
    But the shareprice, went down, down and down.
    Eventually, the dead body fell out of the cupboard>
    The chart didn;t lie.

    With Crucell , it must be , that some things aren't well

    When a venture capitalist , sees money on THe Street,
    he'll pick it up before someone else does.
    But not here.
    So where is that money in a corner.??

    I don't see it , at the moment.

    But they DON'T!

    So some thing are WRONG, simple as that.
  8. [verwijderd] 28 oktober 2009 08:18

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    My comparison is just the share price which is moving down,
    compared to : "everything is fine : go to sleep, we watch your shares "
    No more no less!

    That's also what the Board of directors of LCI said.
    , when the shareprice went down, down and down.
  9. [verwijderd] 28 oktober 2009 08:26

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    quote:

    wilb52 schreef:

    My comparison is just the share price which is moving down,
    compared to : "everything is fine : go to sleep, we watch your shares "
    No more no less!

    That's also what the Board of directors of LCI said.
    , when the shareprice went down, down and down.
    Samen met Ron naar www.crucellLEED.nl.
  13. ballie2 28 oktober 2009 09:10

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    Een koers van 13.75 euro met ca.500 miljoen in kas en 80 miljoen aandelen.
    Dit kan toch geen zuivere koffie zijn!?
    Er moet naar mijn mening iets aankomen.
  14. [verwijderd] 28 oktober 2009 09:13

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    Een koers van 13.75 euro met ca.500 miljoen in kas en 80 miljoen aandelen.
    Dit kan toch geen zuivere koffie zijn!?
    Er moet naar mijn mening iets aankomen.
    Als het maar niet de lampen van de trein zijn in de tunnel.
  18. ballie2 28 oktober 2009 09:18

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    Een koers van 13.75 euro met ca.500 miljoen in kas en 80 miljoen aandelen.
    Dit kan toch geen zuivere koffie zijn!?
    Er moet naar mijn mening iets aankomen.
    Zou mooi zijn een bod van 27,50 euro, 100% premie!
    -6.25 euro per aandeel in kas.
    80 milj. x 21,25 euro = 1,7 miljard.
    Iedereen gelukkig!!!
  20. ballie2 28 oktober 2009 09:24

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    ballie2 schreef:

    [quote=ballie2]
    Een koers van 13.75 euro met ca.500 miljoen in kas en 80 miljoen aandelen.
    Dit kan toch geen zuivere koffie zijn!?
    Er moet naar mijn mening iets aankomen.
    [/quote]

    Zou mooi zijn een bod van 27,50 euro, 100% premie!
    -6.25 euro per aandeel in kas.
    80 milj. x 21,25 euro = 1,7 miljard.
    Iedereen gelukkig!!!
    Ik zit nu lekker te dagdromen.

    20,67 + 6,25= 26,92 euro
    26,92 delen door 2 (100% premie)
    13,46 euro.
    We zijn er bijna.
  21. [verwijderd] 28 oktober 2009 09:24

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    wilb52 schreef:

    Speeder 13.4

    is de volgende , daarna 13.07

    valt , die, dan is het over en sluiten-----------> 10
    Ik heb het in het verleden nooit gedaan met Crucell, maar ik wacht nog steeds om weer volledig in te stappen. Genmab overigens is een betere investering gebleken. Alhoewel het resultaat me wel tegenvalt na een FDA goedkeuring.
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