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  1. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 09:41
    allemaal even goed lezen, Obama is niet zo slim als iedereen denkt :-). Hehe, eindelijk publiceert iemand eens iets waar je wat aan hebt.

    How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis: Kevin Hassett
    2008-09-22 04:04:00.0 GMT

    Commentary by Kevin Hassett
    Sept. 22 (Bloomberg) -- The financial crisis of the past year has provided a number of surprising twists and turns, and from Bear Stearns Cos. to American International Group Inc., ambiguity has been a big part of the story.
    Why did Bear Stearns fail, and how does that relate to AIG?
    It all seems so complex.
    But really, it isn't. Enough cards on this table have been turned over that the story is now clear. The economic history books will describe this episode in simple and understandable
    terms: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exploded, and many bystanders were injured in the blast, some fatally.
    Fannie and Freddie did this by becoming a key enabler of the mortgage crisis. They fueled Wall Street's efforts to securitize subprime loans by becoming the primary customer of all AAA-rated subprime-mortgage pools. In addition, they held an enormous portfolio of mortgages themselves.
    In the times that Fannie and Freddie couldn't make the market, they became the market. Over the years, it added up to an enormous obligation. As of last June, Fannie alone owned or guaranteed more than $388 billion in high-risk mortgage investments. Their large presence created an environment within which even mortgage-backed securities assembled by others could find a ready home.
    The problem was that the trillions of dollars in play were only low-risk investments if real estate prices continued to rise. Once they began to fall, the entire house of cards came down with them.

    Turning Point

    Take away Fannie and Freddie, or regulate them more wisely, and it's hard to imagine how these highly liquid markets would ever have emerged. This whole mess would never have happened.
    It is easy to identify the historical turning point that marked the beginning of the end.
    Back in 2005, Fannie and Freddie were, after years of dominating Washington, on the ropes. They were enmeshed in accounting scandals that led to turnover at the top. At one telling moment in late 2004, captured in an article by my American Enterprise Institute colleague Peter Wallison, the Securities and Exchange Comiission's chief accountant told disgraced Fannie Mae chief Franklin Raines that Fannie's position on the relevant accounting issue was not even ``on the page'' of allowable interpretations.
    Then legislative momentum emerged for an attempt to create a ``world-class regulator'' that would oversee the pair more like banks, imposing strict requirements on their ability to take excessive risks. Politicians who previously had associated themselves proudly with the two accounting miscreants were less eager to be associated with them. The time was ripe.

    Greenspan's Warning

    The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn't be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie ``continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'' he said. ``We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.''
    What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

    Different World

    If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions.
    Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed.
    But the bill didn't become law, for a simple reason:
    Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn't even get the Senate to vote on the matter.
    That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the
    time: ``It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.''

    Mounds of Materials

    Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate Democrats in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing.
    But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.
    Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.
    Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees. The private profit found its way back to the senators who killed the fix.
    There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear.
    Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that's worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess.

    (Kevin Hassett, director of economic-policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, is a Bloomberg News columnist. He is an adviser to Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona in the
    2008 presidential election. The opinions expressed are his own.)
  2. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 09:42
    quote:

    Floppertje schreef:

    [quote=Floppertje]
    calls 385 33 stuks verkocht voor (veel te weinig) 6,=.

    nu 40 st put 375 ax4 ingelegd op 4,25
    [/quote]

    nog 20 st put 375 ax4 ingelegd op 4,85. slechts 1 gekregen op dit moment.
    put 375, slechts 1, verkocht voor 5,50. overige welke ingelegd waren geannuleerd.

    nu 20 st ax4 385 gekocht voor 5,25. (scheelt toch weer 0,75 met m'n verkoop van vanochtend.)
  3. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 09:43
    quote:

    Floppertje schreef:

    [quote=Floppertje]
    [quote=Floppertje]
    calls 385 33 stuks verkocht voor (veel te weinig) 6,=.

    nu 40 st put 375 ax4 ingelegd op 4,25
    [/quote]

    nog 20 st put 375 ax4 ingelegd op 4,85. slechts 1 gekregen op dit moment.
    [/quote]

    put 375, slechts 1, verkocht voor 5,50. overige welke ingelegd waren geannuleerd.

    nu 20 st ax4 385 gekocht voor 5,25. (scheelt toch weer 0,75 met m'n verkoop van vanochtend.)
    we gaan groen vandaag!
  4. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 09:47
    zou kunnen, maar ik heb BLAW er even bijgepakt en alle feiten kloppen. Werpt even een iets ander gezichtspunt op wiens schuld het eigenlijk is.

    quote:

    optiedokter schreef:

    American Enterprise Institute? Is dat niet die ultra-conservatieve club waar Hirshi Ali werkt of heeft gewerkt?

  5. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 10:06
    quote:

    cadesc. schreef:

    shorts gehouden bij open + uitgebreid in 1e minuten conform plan

    vr.gr.....c.
    short uitgebreid op 381.7 = fibo 50 herstel intraday (384-379.5)
  6. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 10:13
    Door een besluit van het Kabinet is het met ingang van maandag 22 september verboden om short te gaan in aandelen uitgegeven door financiële ondernemingen.

    Wanneer u bij Alex het product "Intraday Short" heeft kunt u, gedurende de periode dat het verbod van kracht is, niet meer short gaan in de volgende aandelen:

    Aegon
    BinckBank
    Fortis
    ING
    SNS Reaal

    Mocht u nog vragen hebben dan kunt u contact opnemen met de Servicedesk.
  7. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 10:17
    quote:

    Illuminati schreef:

    Door een besluit van het Kabinet is het met ingang van maandag 22 september verboden om short te gaan in aandelen uitgegeven door financiële ondernemingen.

    Wanneer u bij Alex het product "Intraday Short" heeft kunt u, gedurende de periode dat het verbod van kracht is, niet meer short gaan in de volgende aandelen:

    Aegon
    BinckBank
    Fortis
    ING
    SNS Reaal

    Mocht u nog vragen hebben dan kunt u contact opnemen met de Servicedesk.
    misschien een nog betere idee voor het Kabinet...
    sluit de deuren op AEX, net als de RUSSEN, dan kan de beurs zekers niet onderuit gaan :)
  8. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 10:18
    quote:

    rightright schreef:

    is de dollar aan een vrije val begonnen?
    dat is wat ze willen toch? dollar minder waard, schuld minder waard... :)
  9. forum rang 4 ONN 22 september 2008 10:45
    Goedemorgen,

    Wat een rust hier net als op de beurzen. Iedereen ff klaar met die onzinbewegingen? Zou door de "maatregelen" de vola gaan afnemen?
    Voorlopig hou ik het maar op een stille maandagmorgen. ;-)
  10. Brievenbus 22 september 2008 10:48
    quote:

    ouwebeursrot schreef:

    Goedemorgen,

    Wat een rust hier net als op de beurzen. Iedereen ff klaar met die onzinbewegingen? Zou door de "maatregelen" de vola gaan afnemen?
    Voorlopig hou ik het maar op een stille maandagmorgen. ;-)
    Dat verwacht ik dus wel, dat de vola stevig af gaat nemen.
    Als het goed is zouden we nu een "verstandige" beurs moeten gaan zien, voor zover dat mogelijk is....
  11. geobeo 22 september 2008 10:57
    quote:

    Richard078 schreef:

    Ik vind de dollar zijn vrije val opmerkelijk hard gaan. wat vinden jullie?
    De val van de eur/usd in de weken hiervoor was veel stijler...
  12. [verwijderd] 22 september 2008 10:57
    quote:

    Richard078 schreef:

    Ik vind de dollar zijn vrije val opmerkelijk hard gaan. wat vinden jullie?
    Wat uiteindelijk weer negatief is voor Amsterdam.
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