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  1. [verwijderd] 6 januari 2007 20:25
    quote:

    1gustaaf schreef:

    Mooi gevonden Crack. Goed perspectief komende tijd voor dit aandeel.
    Van wanneer dateert dit stuk eigenlijk?
    G
    5 jan 2007
  2. [verwijderd] 11 januari 2007 08:00
    Re: FWIW-- u got it? (1 Rating) 11-Jan-07 12:00 am I don't think I buy the idea that the hedgies, institutions, or other bond holders want to make a play for Finisar. It is only the $100M in bonds that were recently renegotiated that are being called in on the so-called notice of default. If FNSR had to pony up the $100M tomorrow, they could do it, and in fact it would be a positive for the company because there would be no dilution of the shares, and they would still have another $40M or so in the bank--more than enough to meet their cash flow requirements at least until the 2008 bonds come due in 20 months.

    This would be a positive for the company because, as long as the share price is less than $3.28 at the time the debt is paid, there will be no obligation to pay out any shares above the principal--meaning no dilution for current shareholders. However, if the stock goes up, the extra value of 30.5M shares above $100M will have to be paid out in shares. At the current price, the bondholders get their cash back, but nothing more, and $100M of debt is eliminated.

    This is the more likely scenario as I see it: The $100M bondholders have hedged their bonds by selling shares short. The market value of the bonds decreases as the stock price goes down, but there is a floor on the bonds at $3.28 per share. Anything below that, and the bonds still retain their face value. The shares, in contrast, can keep going down. So if the bond holders short the stock when it is above $3.28, they can't get hurt if the stock goes up, because the bonds will also increase in value. But if the stock goes below $3.28, they can cover their shorts for a profit while still holding the original bond.

    For this reason, there is a lot of money to be made whenever the stock price goes above or below $3.28. A notice of default causes fear to enter the picture, and some weak hands will sell, pushing the share price down so that bond holders can cover their short positions for a profit, despite the fact that institutional ownership continues to increase.

    IMO this can only go on for so long, since we are not far from 100% institutional and insider ownership. I think the bond holders realize this, which is why there was a steep drop in shares short last month. They have taken the current negativity and uncertainty surrounding the options investigation for all it's worth, and the volume was drying up--so they needed to create an incentive for more people to sell their shares. Hence the issuance of a groundless notice of default.

    The thing is, if the $100M is paid out to the bond holders in two months, their short positions will then be naked. True, they will have a lot of cash to cover those positions, but will there be enough shares available to meet the demand created by the need to cover all those millions of shorts? Sounds like the perfect scenario for a short squeeze to me!

    RFR!!!


  3. gustaaf1e 12 januari 2007 22:39
    En Fini weer positief gesloten. Al is het niet zoveel als gisteren en eergisteren. Zo blijft er ook nog wat in het vat zitten. Het hoeft niet op al is het lekker...
    G
  4. [verwijderd] 12 januari 2007 23:11
    quote:

    1gustaaf schreef:

    En Fini weer positief gesloten. Al is het niet zoveel als gisteren en eergisteren. Zo blijft er ook nog wat in het vat zitten. Het hoeft niet op al is het lekker...
    G
    heb er een 7k van
    vandaag 2k bijgekocht voor kt
    de 5k voor langere tijd eerder op 3,22 teruggekocht na eerder 3,54 eruit na de cc
  5. [verwijderd] 17 januari 2007 20:56
    quote:

    tonpa schreef:

    Ik kan niets vinden, waarom Finisar zo zakt.Iemand een verklaring?
    volledige shorts aanval
    yahoo ontzettend gebashed
    vorig jaar ook twee keer zo gezien
  6. [verwijderd] 17 januari 2007 21:01
    los ervan interessante opinie:

    FWIW-- u got it? (3 Ratings) 10-Jan-07 09:00 pm i think i have everything corrected that the ankle biters would have a problem understanding.
    ----------------------------------------------------- ----------

    fnsr issues convert bonds ...receives funding...pays interest...will repay principal when due in either cash or shares

    the creditors(shorts) go short the common to hedge the bond they funded......normally they cover the shorts by maturity of the convert with the stock they may receive as the payment of the principal

    in this situtation, FNSR recently restructured 100 mil of their convertable bonds due 2010 and under the terms of the deal they will be repaying the 100 mil in cash rather stock in 2010. the bond holders got paid a fee or what amounts to a fee to adjust the terms of the repayment of the bonds.( bout 3 mil and a small amount of shares)

    now at the same time the bondholders kept their short hedge on the common even though they will be getting paid in cash at maturity.

    Now they are trying to be cute by trying to force a default...why? well they would get their money back (principal in cash and whatever interest)before the maturity of 2010. So in theory they should be flat...they would have gotten paid the principal in cash plus interest and that debt is gone..all before the 2010 maturity.... got it?

    but wait they're still short the shares as a hedge....they hope for the default proceedings hit the stock with the news and that they get to cover their shorts at a potential profit....so not only would they get their principal and interest back in less time than contractually agreed to but the short becomes
    a distinct and material profit center for them....

    here is the question u must ask,,,who actually owns the bonds..prolly not the trustee...but who? could be instis, could be private equity, could be someone that by forcing FNSR's hand like this maybe trying to get them to sell? would the 70% insti ownership allow this? :)

    hostile...poison pills(1. warrants to be issued initiated back at the bottom of the burst bubble, 2. Rs approval 3. restructuring 100 mil of the debt to be paid in cash not stock, That would keep $100 mil of shares out of the hands of...( if the bonds get traded in the secondary market and fall into the hands of a potential hostile acquirer)it keeps the shares out of their hands in that type of scenario 4. voluntary options backdating REVIEW)

    My opinion ;)

    FEA

  7. [verwijderd] 17 januari 2007 22:54
    Finisar Corp.shares sank 11% after the company said fiscal second-quarter revenue rose to $108.2 million from $86.6 million during the same period in the prior year, while Wall Street had expected $110 million. The company is not announcing quarterly income, and will delay filing results, due to a review of its historical option grants. The fiber optic solutions company said it is likely that the measurement dates for certain stock-option grants differed from the recorded grant dates, and the company will likely need to restate its historical results to record charges for compensation expense relating to the grants.
  8. [verwijderd] 18 januari 2007 06:26
    quote:

    swis schreef:

    Finisar Corp.shares sank 11% after the company said fiscal second-quarter revenue rose to $108.2 million from $86.6 million during the same period in the prior year, while Wall Street had expected $110 million. The company is not announcing quarterly income, and will delay filing results, due to a review of its historical option grants. The fiber optic solutions company said it is likely that the measurement dates for certain stock-option grants differed from the recorded grant dates, and the company will likely need to restate its historical results to record charges for compensation expense relating to the grants.
    oud nieuws lijkt me van begin december
  9. [verwijderd] 18 januari 2007 12:55
    gister was volledige short aanval
    misschien inderdaad van de noteholders
    zou verloop afgelopen jaar wel verklaren

    maar we zien wel, ik probeer bodem in te schatten of ie naar 3$ of erdonder kan nog 1 maal..en dan koop ik groot bij
  10. [verwijderd] 18 januari 2007 22:08
    quote:

    swis schreef:

    leuk bericht
    maar dit is dan weer minder
    www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0129/...

    is al bekend ook al oud nieuws
    en optie backdating mag je vergelijk met apple
    hebben veel bedrijven gedaan, is nu vrijwillig odnerzoek

    wat je deze week ziet is massale short aanval, goed kijken en leer ervan

    heb zelf twee GTC onder 3$ ingelegd voor geval dat
  11. gustaaf1e 18 januari 2007 22:19
    quote:

    crackedtooth schreef:

    [quote=swis]
    leuk bericht
    maar dit is dan weer minder
    www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0129/...

    is al bekend ook al oud nieuws
    en optie backdating mag je vergelijk met apple
    hebben veel bedrijven gedaan, is nu vrijwillig odnerzoek

    wat je deze week ziet is massale short aanval, goed kijken en leer ervan

    heb zelf twee GTC onder 3$ ingelegd voor geval dat
    Twee GTC?
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