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1. [verwijderd] 18 maart 2009 23:11

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   Begrijp wel dat het slechts papieren handel is natuurlijk, het blijft indrukwekkend hoeveel goud er 'op papier' wordt verhandeld.
   
   er moet overigens een nulletje van af. Er is vandaag 'maar' ongeveer op papier een kwart van de jaarlijkse totale wereldwijde goudproductie van hand tot hand gegaan. Dan hebben we het alleen nog maar over de comex april future he.
   
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2. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 10:01

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   The Fed has pulled the pin on the USD. There's no going back now.
   Bill Poole weighed in on today's FOMC decision tobuy $300 billion in Treasury bonds, plus $1.45 trillion in mortgage backedsecurities and GSE debt: “We are not even close to the bottom and therefore theFed is engaging in a massive quantitative easing,” William Poole, formerpresident of the St. Louis Fed, told BloombergNews.
   
   www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601...
   
   He might have added that massive quantitative easing is what governments dowhen their debt is insupportable and they're running out of options. The Bankof England is buying UK bonds, the Bank of Japan is buying Japanese bonds andmaking increases loans to banks, the Swiss National Bank is buying Swiss bonds,and Trichet is considering having the ECB buy Euro bonds.
   
   This shows how desperately bad the derivative crisis is. Bernanke has pulled his last, most dangerous tool out of the Fed toolkit and put it to work. This will destroy the Fed's balance sheet. Take note, Ben: The Bank of England had their first QE auction today, and the bid to cover ratio was 7.35. More than seven gilts were offered to the BoE for every gilt that Mervyn was prepared to buy. If you offer to pay an artificially high price for anything, you will end up with all of it.
   
   As soon as the FOMC made its statement, the markets spoke immediately. Bondyields plummeted (because bond investors don't understand what QE will do to thevalue of bonds), the stock indices rallied, but the most interesting moves werein the gold and dollar markets.
   The gold traders and currency traders know exactly where this is going.The USDX has broken support and is headed for .80.
   There's no road home from here.
3. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 10:10

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   USTREASURY BONDS AS COMPETITOR FOR GOLD
   Dogs and cats are mortal enemies in the animal world. In the insect world, ants and termites are mortal enemies. In the financial world, gold and USTreasury Bonds are mortal enemies. They compete for the revered role of safe haven for funds. In today's day and age, with numerous storms, some unprecedented, safe haven is especially valuable. One of the most important jobs for the USFederal Reserve, JPMorgan (its agent), and the USCongress is to create the impression that USTreasurys are indeed not only safe, but beyond reproach and free from any hint of default potential. In recent months, with a failure of many important US-based financial engines, and sharp economic decline, made more complex by mammoth commitments from the USGovt on rescues and stimulus, the pristine image of USTreasurys has suffered from severe tarnish.
   
   When dealing with the Chinese on her first mission to Asia as Secy State, Hillary Rodham Clinton made an unusual statement, when describing the USTreasurys held by Chinese creditors. "It is a safe investment. The United States has a well-deserved financial reputation." The Chinese are increasingly uneasy. In my view the United States and Chinese are actively engaged in a trade war, not over products and manufacturing so much, but over purchase and management of US debt securities in general. The US does have a reputation with respect to its role of issuance and sale of USTreasurys. It has traded military security for Saudi Arabia in return for recycled purchase of USTBonds. It invested up to $30 billion inside China over a few years toward construction of factories in return for agreements for them to purchase both USTBonds and USAgency Mortgage Bonds. Many more deals have been cut. On more than a couple occasions, US Navy exercises were suddenly conducted off the South Korean and Taiwanese shores in response to their announced diversification out of USTBonds. For some reason, they changed their plans. Since 2007, when the mortgage debacle was exposed, it became clear that Wall Street exported well over $1000 billion in fraudulent asset backed bonds of various types. So Hillary is correct, the US has a deserved financial reputation, amplified with the mortgage controversy that has helped to cripple most foreign bank systems. They have noticed. They feel great pain, much given directly by Wall Street firms. To be sure, property bubbles in Spain and Eastern Europe have been ruptured, enough to damage banks from Spain to Germany, especially Switzerland.
   
   If ever the USTreasury complex gives off gas and dissipates for a prolonged period, like a year or more time, the biggest beneficiary would be gold, and also silver. The USFed ensured the creation of a USTreasury bubble last autumn. Its Dollar Swap facility has been cited before. The peak was created at that time. The last few months have seen a reduction in the bubble. This is a good signal for gold. The US Federal Reserve repeated announcements of buying USTreasurys have come with unstated hidden messages, like they will buy them with printed money authorized by the USDept Treasury. This is not a statement that they will make openly in plain language. Today, the USFed announced the planned purchase of $300 billion in long-term USTBonds over the next six months. It is understand that the purchases will be pure monetization, as in unadulterated unmistakable monetary inflation. Clearly, the current USGovt policies, sure to increasing the money supply in a nightmarish endless parade of rescues, nationalizations, aid and stimulus packages, are intended to combat the USEconomic disintegration. Their success is hardly assured to produce an economic recovery, let alone vitality. Their impact on the gold price and undermine to the USDollar integrity are both very certain.
   
   In my view, the best case scenario is for a bizarre flatline in economic growth next year, but with hyper-inflation taking root as a low level plague. Economic disruption would change in nature, from the hidden nature of price inflation, aggravated additionally by supply chain interruption. The profit margins for a variety of businesses, including gasoline refinery and chemical factories, have been badly harmed. And farm conditions have not even been cited, whose seed and fertilizer stresses have reached critical levels. Gold would respond very favorably, both to price inflation and disruptions.
   
   CONTROL FROM BERMUDA TRIANGLE
   The rally seen in USTreasury Bonds in recent months came at the expense of almost all other bonds. Spreads have worsened once again. Details can be seen in the March Hat Trick Letter posted last weekend. Progress had been seen in credit markets since December and especially since February. Bond sales remain available only to the strongest companies. Trained like sheep or guinea pigs, people flocked into USTreasury Bonds as perceived to offer safe haven or quality. They turned to the latest gigantic global bubble that offers no safety at all, believing that default is out of the question. USTreasurys as investment will offer steady losses next. Notice how the primary impetus behind the supposed USTBond rally was the mountain of purchases this past autumn by the USGovt and UKGovt, as seen in the Caribbean banks, where their fingerprints are often found without any mention in the press whatsoever. The US & UK illicit games conducted in Caribbean banks is given cover from hedge funds and Arab accounts, but not enough to hide what is really happening. In July 2008, the Caribbean bank center ledger item showed $117 billion is USTreasurys. By October 2008 the amount zoomed up to $204 billion. This is not Bermuda and Bahamas redeeming sea conch shells, molasses barrels, and salvaged marine vessels for USTreasury Bonds. These are games played by the syndicates running the central banks.
   
   SO THE BIG CAPITAL OUTFLOWS, COUPLED BY HUGE CARIBBEAN PURCHASES, CLEARLY CONTRADICT THE DOLLAR RALLY IN JANUARY!!!
   
   The bigger question is whether USTBonds were purchased with newly printed money. Clearly they were in my view. The motive was to create the impression of a flight to safety, to cause a rally in the USTreasury Bond complex. Additional air cover was provided by JPMorgan bond future purchases, many favorable stories in the US financial press, and Wall Street firm announcements. If the USTreasurys are so pristine and risk-free, then why did they recently hit 1.00% for Credit Default insurance protection cost? The 5-year USTNote bears roughly a 2% yield, but its default insurance cuts that effective yield to 1.0% only. A year ago the same default insurance cost a mere 1 basis point, as in 0.01 percent, one hundred times less. Maybe someday soon the shorter term USTreasurys will cost in default insurance more than their measly yield paid out. The world's financial markets are realizing that USTreasurys are not so free of risk at all, and surely not a safe haven. ASK THE CHINESE FOR AN OPINION.
   
   ABANDONMENT UNDERWAY
   The Treasury International Capital report provides a visible snapshot of foreign investment changes, which include the scummy detail revealed in the Caribbean graphic. The data in the TIC report falls into four major categories: USTreasurys, USAgencys, US corporate bonds, and US stocks. On a net basis, the data was miserable in January at a net decline by $148.9 billion in net capital flows. The danger comes from outflows occurring at a time when foreign fun
4. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 10:12

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   ABANDONMENT UNDERWAY
   The Treasury International Capital report provides a visible snapshot of foreign investment changes, which include the scummy detail revealed in the Caribbean graphic. The data in the TIC report falls into four major categories: USTreasurys, USAgencys, US corporate bonds, and US stocks. On a net basis, the data was miserable in January at a net decline by $148.9 billion in net capital flows. The danger comes from outflows occurring at a time when foreign funds are even more urgently needed to cover USGovt debts, soon to be securitized into USTreasury Bonds, but now mere commitments. Last October the capital flow was net plus $273 billion, as clearly money flooded into USTreasurys the world over during the Wall Street meltdown. Anyone who believes an economic or bank recovery can come within a few months after a meltdown is either a moron of a USGovt employee, maybe both. The process is reversing. The chart below shows 12-month changes in rolling style in the billion$. Notice how the USTreasury holdings are indeed slowing their growth pace, but the USAgency Mortgage Bonds are in a state of near total abandonment. Their future is clouded since Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac conduct their acidic operations under the USGovt aegis (wing). The USAgencys are almost $100 billion lower in volume held than a year ago. No longer do foreign central banks consider them safe. Word has it that back in September when Fannie Mae was taken under USGovt control, foreign banks threatened a broad wave of mortgage bond sales. Instead of abandoning them suddenly, foreigners decided to sell them off piecemeal. This decision came after the USGovt guaranteed them, and bought the entire acid pit. In time, the Fannie & Freddie cost will rack much higher than $1 trillion.
   
   Just last month, the Chinese sold off another $3.1 billion in USAgency Mortgage Bonds. My belief is that the Chinese, who have increased their USTBond holdings from $550 billion in July to $740 billion in January, are focusing attention away from mortgage holdings. They were down to below $300 billion in USAgencys a few months ago. China has embarked on a dual plan in my view. They wish to convert some mortgage bonds to actual property inside the United States, even commercial buildings. They have already begun to use USTBonds in large-scale deals with other nations on major projects for energy and metals production. In other words, they are spending now and hope to convert to property later. They are also doling out USTBonds to poor African nations in the form of aid and development grants.
   
   Another danger signal is evident. China purchased $12.2 billion in USTreasurys in January, but 95% of them were short-term securities. That is not a sign of confidence. So as Eric deCarbonnel said, "Indeed, the real legacy of the crisis has been an enormous contraction in long-term flows, with a corresponding increase in the United States reliance on short-term financing. And also a shift away from risky assts. One striking fact is that foreign investors now consider Agencys to be a 'risky' asset." His website is chock full of interesting bond related information (CLICK HERE).
   
   ALL TREASURYS SPRUNG A LEAK
   January clearly was the peak for the USTreasury bubble in general. Recall that a rising bond yield means a falling principal value. Starting in January of 2009, interest rates offered as yield have been rising slowly. It is early, but the lowest bond yields might have been seen. Just as it is easy to engineer a stock rally when Citigroup shares were at $1, it is easy to suffer a decline in USTreasurys when the bond yield is absurdly low, like near 0% for the short-term securities.
   
   The usual channel in the investment cycle is for funds invested in bonds to move into stocks. My analytic conclusion is that the USEconomy is nowhere near a recovery phase, but some conmen roaming the Wall Street corridors can sell the concept after significant declines in the Dow and S&P indexes. When the next stock decline comes, and even lower lows are carved, once more the USTreasurys will be chased as safe haven. We will be much closer to the arrival of price inflation by that time. No longer can one say that the dominant flow of USGovt funds is only to Wall Street firms, AIG, and Fannie Mae. Big USGovt spending packages are being agreed upon. Whether efficiently assigned or not, massive money is soon to hit Main Street. The channel is soon to be interrupted. Money will not flow from bonds to stocks so easily. The destination of gold is being more widely perceived as wise. Gold competes well as a safe haven. Big bank deaths only amplify the benefits of owning gold. The threat of lost deposits is a curse without equal. The threat of withered corporate bonds behind banks is equally loathsome and unnerving to the most staid among investors.
   
   Some respected analysts have begun to identify the USTreasurys as the biggest bubble in existence now. That seems obvious. A rising default insurance cost is a worrisome billboard to place next to the newest bubble on the US landscape. Gold is certain to be a beneficiary. WHEN THE USTREASURYS LOSE MORE VALUE, THE FEEDER SYSTEM INTO GOLD WILL BE SO CLEAR. Even if 10% or 20% of the USTreasury sales are directed into golden channels, the effect will be powerful. Watch the feeder system.
   
   GOLD EXTREMELY STUBBORN
   The gold price continues to find support at the 910 level, amidst the tumult of first the stock market bear rally, and now the USFed announcement. The 50-day moving average lies at 907, which once more has shown support. The 100-day MA lies at 880, which should provide some additional support, like it did today. Concern lies over the flirty move below the trendline established since November lows. On Wednesday March18, gold touched 883 in a big headfake full of flirt. After the news came of official USFed monetization of $300 billion in USTreasurys over the next six months, the gold price registered a $40 reversal. Also, silver registered a 60-cent reversal. Powerful forces will lift the gold & silver prices. Huge factors come from blatant monetary inflation in the form of USTBond purchase off a printing press of funds, from ruined currencies as foreign governments join the USGovt in fiscal emergency measures, and the old standby. Bank insolvency remains stubborn and in my view unresolvable and unfixable. When at least one major US bank falls victim to a clear death before summer, the rush into gold will be unmistakable. The window of low price is still with us.
   
   Gold & silver responded immediately to the USFed monetization decision. This cannot be emphasized enough times, since it is an open admission of a direct policy to undermine the currency. GOLD ALWAYS BENEFITS FROM CURRENCY DEVALUATION VIA PRINTING PRESS, NO EXCEPTION. Precious metals are protection from currency debasement, debauchery, and dilution. Gold & silver do not rise in value so much as the currencies fall in value versus actual money, as determined by gold & silver. Gold & silver are not stupid. Neither is the US Constitution. Only central bankers and Congressional members are the fools, since they regard themselves as alchemists. They betray Economic Mother Nature, and earn her vicious wrath in destroyed economies. Gold & silver can be treated with abuse, even ordered to sit in the corner for time-outs, but they each are the dominant currencies. The next year will make this so clear.
   
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5. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 10:16

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   er moet overigens een nulletje van af. Er is vandaag 'maar' ongeveer op papier een kwart van de jaarlijkse totale wereldwijde goudproductie van hand tot hand gegaan. Dan hebben we het alleen nog maar over de comex april future he.
   

   aangezien goud niet verbruikt wordt in productie heeft het weinig zin om handelsomzet af te zetten tegen productie. zinvoller om als percentage van totale uitstaande hoeveelheid goud af te zetten.
   
   en dat vergelijken met aandelenomzet tov marktkapitalisatie van aandelenmarkt.
   
   geeft meer een indicatie van hoelang beleggers goud vasthouden (omloopsnelheid) dan van de netto vraag.
6. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 10:35

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   BJL,
   
   interresant! (Het ging me eigenlijk om het beeld eigenlijk)
   
   over de totale hoeveelheid goud zijn slechts schattingen. Eén ervan is dat er gedurende een periode van 200 jaar 50.000.000 oz per jaar is geproduceerd. (Is waarschijnlijk aan de hoge kant).
   Totaal is dat 10.000.000.000 oz. (Dat zou slechts 25 m3 zijn!!).
   Op een handelsdag als gisteren gaat er dan +/- 21.000.000 oz om, ofwel 0.21% van de totale geschatte goudvoorraad.
   
   Als er in de meeste liquide goudfuture gemiddeld ook 20.000.000 oz per dag doorheen gaat, dan zou dat beteken dat 'men' goud ongeveer 500 dagen vasthoud. Dat valt dan nog wel mee. (Niet handelsdagen en overige papieren goudproducten overigens niet meegerekend).
   
   Misschien kun jij zelf iets zinnings zeggen over hoe dat zich verhoud tot de aandelenomzet tov marktkapitalisatie van de aandelenmarkt. Daar heb ik echt totaal geen (of nóg minder) verstand van?
   
   
7. jrxs4all 19 maart 2009 10:50

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   Even een mooi concurrentievoordeel voor de Amerikaanse exporteurs. De daling van de dollar zal wel tijdelijk zijn omdat de ECB hetzelfde gaat doen als de FED, alleen pakweg een half jaar later.
   
   Daarom denk ik nu dat de VS een jaar eerder uit de crisis zullen zijn dan Europa in plaats van een half jaar eerder, wat ik tot nu toe dacht.
   
   Men speelt het spel daar aan de overkant van de oceaan zeer deskundig,
   
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8. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 10:54

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   bijvoorbeeld voor de maand februari
   
   omzet / uitstaand
   
   Aalberts 9%
   Ahold 10%
   Akzo 12%
   ING 16%
9. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 11:37

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   bijvoorbeeld voor de maand februari
   
   omzet / uitstaand
   
   Aalberts 9%
   Ahold 10%
   Akzo 12%
   ING 16%
   

   Voor goud zou dat dan uitkomen op 5,88%
   
   (Waarschijnlijk iets hoger vanwege waarschijnlijk te hoge schatting van totale goudhoeveelheid)
10. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 13:25

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    Let iemand op de dollart?, vandaag zeker de emotie die zorgt voor het dipje:P
    
    Grappige uitzondering is vandaag dat de Euro sterker wordt tov de Swiss franc, en de dollart zwakker, welcome back Switzerland!
12. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 13:40

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    Zeer deskundig geld uit helikopters strooien.
13. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 13:48

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    Ik wacht op het moment dat de volledige wereld (behalve de VS) op een moment het allemaal allemaal aan zijn laars lapt en MASSIVE doorhandeld en alle beurzen omhoog SPUITEN giga volumes in Euro's alles omgeswitched is
    
    Mijn tip: mensen creeer volumes in Euro's!!!! GO GO GO!!!!
    
    Zij strooien geld per heli, wij trekken het simpel uit onze portomoneeeeee, bye bye zwaai zwaai
    
    lol
14. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 15:41

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    Zojuist op Gold U$ 956, van mijn goudposities 2/3 gecasht. U$ 960 kan een harde weerstand worden en je weet maar nooit met goud....hebben=hebben, krijgen is de kunt.
    
    gr.mineset
15. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 15:54

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    ik blijf nog even zitten want ik denk dat veel mensen nu instappen en bang zijn om de goud boot te missen. De dollar zakt ook gestaag door....
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    De Chinezen laten hun munt mooi meelopen met de dollar:
    
    fx.sauder.ubc.ca/cgi/fxplot?b=USD&c=E...
    
    Zij hebben dus een enorm voordeel van de move van de FED. Hun dollars worden niet minder waard, maar de waarde van hun Amerikaanse staatsobligaties stijgt wel fors.
    
    Ze hebben geen concurrentie nadeel t.o.v. de VS maar wel een voordeel t.o.v. Europa. Net als de Amerikanen.
    
    Wij draaien er dus voor op en de ECB slaapt voorlopig,
    
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    Wij draaien er dus voor op en de ECB slaapt voorlopig,
    
    JR
    
    

    Trichet wacht op een wonder en zit in lourdes.
    
    Short olie nu?
    gr.fes
    
18. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 16:11

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    Zojuist op Gold U$ 956, van mijn goudposities 2/3 gecasht. U$ 960 kan een harde weerstand worden en je weet maar nooit met goud....hebben=hebben, krijgen is de kunt.
    
    gr.mineset
    

    Dank voor de hint, bijna alles verkocht.
    Morgen eens weer kijken hoe de vlag er bij staat.
19. jrxs4all 19 maart 2009 16:39

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    Wij draaien er dus voor op en de ECB slaapt voorlopig,
    
    JR
    
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    Trichet wacht op een wonder en zit in lourdes.
    
    Short olie nu?
    gr.fes
    
    

    Ik zat er al op te azen ja. Moet alleen erg uitkijken met de snelle handel, ben gedwongen alles met links te typen (gipsarm andere kant) en ik ben rechts.
    
    Dus voor ik een order heb ingetypt kan de koers al een paar procent zijn veranderd :) Even rustig aan met traden dus.
    
    Maar een olieshort zou, als de beurzen weer wat terugzakken, wel eens flink winstgevend kunnen zijn,
    
    JR
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    Ik lees dat de gemiddelde WTI prijsverwachting de komende 2 jaar rond de U$ 60 / barrel ligt, met een variatie van een tientje eronder en erboven. Ik blijf daar voorlopig dus maar even uit....
    
    Vwb gold, clip ik even het grafiekje, hoe ik tegen de weerstand aankijk. Garantie tot aan de deur mbt Comex.WPT = Gold Casino Royal
    
    ;-) mineset

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21. [verwijderd] 19 maart 2009 17:00

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    Vraag is ook....wat gaat de euro doen.
    Blijft die weer even steken bij de 1.38; wordt het 1.4155 (23,6) of 'all the way' naar 1.47 ?
    
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    gr.mineset

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