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  1. [verwijderd] 5 oktober 2011 12:25
    quote:

    TraderRon schreef op 5 oktober 2011 12:12:

    IMF says IMF could, if needed, create a SPV to buy bonds of Spain and Italy on primary, secondary market, alongside EFSF

    IMF meedoen aan het EFSF en vervolgens geen jump op dit soort nieuws?
    De Ami's gaan dan ook meebetalen.
  2. TraderRon 5 oktober 2011 12:27
    quote:

    Kethelbinkie schreef op 5 oktober 2011 12:25:

    [...]
    De Ami's gaan dan ook meebetalen.
    Daarom op zich best groot nieuws als het IMF daar zelf mee komt..
    Opmerkelijk daarom dat er zo weinig op gereageerd wordt terwijl soms op de meest onnozele geruchten alles omhoog/omlaag vliegt.
  3. forum rang 7 mvliex 1 5 oktober 2011 12:33
    Moody’s Sees More European Downgrades
    By Ben Livesey and Chiara Vasarri - Oct 5, 2011 11:32 AM GMT+0200 .

    Moody’s Investors Service followed its three-level downgrade of Italy by warning that euro-area nations rated below the top Aaa level may see their rankings cut amid contagion from the region’s debt crisis.

    “All but the strongest euro-area sovereigns are likely to face sustained negative pressure on their ratings,” Moody’s said in a statement late yesterday in London. “Consequently, Moody’s expects fewer countries below Aaa to retain high ratings.” It added that “there are no immediate pressures that could cause downgrades for Aaa-rated countries.”

    The statement came after the company cut Italy’s rating for the first time since 1993 on concern the government will struggle to reduce the region’s second-largest debt amid chronically weak growth. Italy was lowered to A2 from Aa2. Standard & Poor’s downgraded Italy on Sept. 20 for the first time in five years.

    “Italy is being punished not because its finances suddenly deteriorated, but because investors have become more sensitive to its long-standing weaknesses,” Nicholas Spiro, managing director at Spiro Sovereign Strategy in London, wrote in an e- mail. “Depending on one’s view, Italy is just as safe, or just as risky, as it was before it was dragged into the crisis.”

    The Moody’s warning underscores the deterioration in euro- region sovereign finances as growth slows and debt piles up. Eleven of the 17 nations that share the single currency have ratings below Aaa. The top ranking is held by Austria, Finland, France, Germany, Luxembourg and the Netherlands.

    Spread Widens
    The yield spread on 10-year Italian bonds and similar German securities rose widened to 379 basis points at 11:20 a.m. in Rome. “Italian spreads are already implying a BBB credit rating and we don’t expect huge reaction from the market to this Moody’s action,” Alessandro Giansanti, a strategist at ING Bank NV in Amsterdam, wrote in a note to investors.

    European stocks climbed, snapping a three-day decline amid speculation policy makers are examining measures to shield banks from the sovereign-debt crisis. The benchmark Stoxx Europe 600 Index jumped 1.6 percent as of 10:28 a.m. in Rome.

    Today’s rebound comes after European stocks registered the longest losing streak in four weeks as policy makers signaled they may renegotiate terms of Greece’s bailout, deepening concern about the impact of the debt crisis.

    European finance chiefs meeting this week considered “technical revisions” to the second Greek bailout, Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker said yesterday, fueling concern bondholders may have to take bigger losses on the nation’s debt.

    ‘Profound Loss’
    “There has been a profound loss of confidence in certain European sovereign debt markets, and Moody’s considers that this extremely weak market sentiment will likely persist,” the ratings company said in yesterday’s statement. “It is no longer a temporary problem that might be addressed through liquidity support, and several euro-area governments are increasingly affected by the loss of confidence.”

    In the absence of a rapid return to growth and market confidence, euro-area nations “will at some point have to choose between increasing the level of mutual support and managing further defaults,” Moody’s said. “The former option is the one that euro-area policy makers are more likely to adopt.”

    To contact the reporters on this story: Ben Livesey at blivesey@bloomberg.net; Chiara Vasarri in Rome at cvasarri@bloomberg.net

    To contact the editors responsible for this story: Angela Cullen at acullen8@bloomberg.net.
  4. [verwijderd] 5 oktober 2011 12:43
    quote:

    ai0l0s78 schreef op 5 oktober 2011 11:23:

    [...]

    Mijn geschreven dagcalls lopen (zeer) langzaam leeg... Beneden de 275 blijven graag ;-)
    :-(
  5. [verwijderd] 5 oktober 2011 13:02
    Prachtige beurs. Reeds tweemaal (door een directeur van Dexia en de Belgische Premier) dat een nationalisatie op til staat en nog een stijging van 8%. Beseft men wel wat dat betekent een nationalisatie die verdomde kopers?
  6. forum rang 7 mvliex 1 5 oktober 2011 13:05
    quote:

    bowmore17 schreef op 5 oktober 2011 13:02:

    Prachtige beurs. Reeds tweemaal (door een directeur van Dexia en de Belgische Premier) dat een nationalisatie op til staat en nog een stijging van 8%. Beseft men wel wat dat betekent een nationalisatie die verdomde kopers?
    Dat een onmiddelijk faillissement is afgewend en de overdreven koersval daarmee iets wordt gecorrigeerd?
    ;-)
  7. forum rang 7 mvliex 1 5 oktober 2011 13:29
    Oct. 5, 2011, 7:18 a.m. EDT
    European Central Bank to hold fire, for now
    ECB rate cut, British quantitative easing seen on

    By William L. Watts, MarketWatch
    FRANKFURT (MarketWatch) — It looks unlikely that Jean-Claude Trichet on Thursday will mark his impending exit from the helm of the European Central Bank by undoing this year’s rate hikes, but the institution is widely expected to take steps now to further shore up the region’s banking sector as fears mount over the consequences of the euro-zone debt crisis.

    That means more steps to provide liquidity to banks in an attempt to ease funding concerns that threaten to create a credit crunch.

    It’s “almost certain” that the ECB will introduce a 12-month liquidity providing auction to help provide longer-term funding to banks, wrote economists Frank Oland Hansen and Anders Moller Lumholtz at Danske Bank in Copenhagen.

    There’s also a 60% probability that the ECB will restart its program of purchasing covered bonds, which was in place from mid-2009 to mid-2010, they said.

    The ECB has continued to lend heavily to the banking sector through a range of non-standard measures. Last month, the ECB announced it was moving, in concert with the U.S. Federal Reserve and other major central banks, to provide three-month dollar funding through the end of the year in an effort to alleviate funding pressures.

    Comments by ECB officials, including Finnish central bank chief Erkki Liikanen, have pointed toward concerns about liquidity constraints in the banking sector, analysts noted.

    “We ... suspect that the bank will announce another 6-month operation to follow August’s offering and/or its first 12-month [lending] operation since December 2009,” said Jennifer McKeown, senior European economist at Capital Economics.

    But Trichet is likely to resist calls to boost the firepower of the 440 billion euro ($586.2 billion) European Financial Stability Facility, via the ECB, she said. Trichet on Tuesday told a European Parliament committee that he wasn’t a fan of the idea.

    Reuters
    Bank of Italy’s Mario Draghi The ECB is eager to exit the controversial bond-buying program that the revamped EFSF is supposed to effectively take over and is likely to “vehemently oppose” proposals that would see the ECB continue to play a role, McKeown said.

    Trichet’s non-renewable, eight-year term as president of the ECB comes to an end this month, which makes Thursday’s meeting in Berlin his final rate-setting exercise. Italian central bank chief Mario Draghi takes over as ECB president in November.

    The ECB will announce its rate decision at 1:45 p.m. local time, or 7:45 a.m. Eastern. Trichet’s monthly news conference is scheduled to start at 8:30 a.m. Eastern
  8. [verwijderd] 5 oktober 2011 13:30
    quote:

    Kethelbinkie schreef op 5 oktober 2011 12:18:

    Aha, we gaan weer lunchdippen.
    S&P-futs in een half uur er bijna 1 procent bij.
    Zo, allemaal de boterhammen in het hoofd gestopt.

    ZAKKUH !!!!!

    Op naar de 272,35.
  9. [verwijderd] 5 oktober 2011 13:36
    quote:

    pmgoud schreef op 5 oktober 2011 11:28:

    Zilver gaat hard omlaag vandaag, gekocht op 28,520 long. Indexen kunnen me geen richting geven.
    Van de hand gedaan op 29,20.
  10. TraderRon 5 oktober 2011 13:44
    US Challenger Job Cuts (Sep) Y/Y 115.73K vs. Prev. 51.1K
    US ECONOMIC DATA
    07:30 05-10-2011
    -Military downsizing is the largest portion of the recent cuts, with BofA recent job-cuts announcement accounting for another big slice
  11. tomic 5 oktober 2011 14:05
    quote:

    ai0l0s78 schreef op 5 oktober 2011 13:31:

    [...]

    Eruit @ 0,40.
    Bijna zelfde trade gedaan. 2x verkocht op 0,85 en verkocht op 0,40 en 0,20.

    (En voor de student even een invul oefening: Winst is .....?)
  12. [verwijderd] 5 oktober 2011 14:06
    quote:

    haas schreef op 5 oktober 2011 13:42:

    suffert,ia bijkoop moment,vandaag, !
    ja tenzij je turbo 28.10 hebt
    ja dan krijg dun in de broek
    Die had ik niet, ik had deze: www.iex.nl/RBS-Turbo-Koers/371619/Sil...

    Als je de grafieken nagaat dan zie je een hele forse downspike op 26 september naar de 26,0, ik ben daarom een beetje voorzichtig.
  13. forum rang 4 ramptoerist 5 oktober 2011 14:07
    Die job cuts gaan nog wel even door , als de bedrijven de aandeelhouders tevreden willen houden. op naar de volgende macro's.
  14. [verwijderd] 5 oktober 2011 14:07
    quote:

    tomic schreef op 5 oktober 2011 14:05:

    [...]

    Bijna zelfde trade gedaan. 2x verkocht op 0,85 en verkocht op 0,40 en 0,20.

    (En voor de student even een invul oefening: Winst is .....?)
    minimaal ten opzichte van het risico en margin
  15. tomic 5 oktober 2011 14:23
    quote:

    Eindejaars RALLY haha schreef op 5 oktober 2011 14:07:

    [...]

    minimaal ten opzichte van het risico en margin
    Hahah\.... ik zocht naar een ander woord, maar reken het wel goed :P
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