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  1. [verwijderd] 9 maart 2021 20:32
    Beste Eric61,

    Ik ben ingestapt aan 1,85 in Lightwave Logic en toen ze zo snel stegen boven 2,10€ leek er geen vuiltje aan de lucht. Nadien zware daling zonder echte reden.
    Als ze richting 1 gaan, koop ik bij om gak te verkleinen.

    Verder lijkt mij Sonim Technologies ook een interessant aandeel. Ingestapt aan 1,10 en zo stegen snel richting 1,60 maar daarna terug zware val. Nu opnieuw 0,99.

    Verder groene focus via Plug Power, ITM, Hexagon Purus en Sunhydrogen.

    Succes allen!
  2. Gerald 10 maart 2021 08:55
    quote:

    4finance schreef op 9 maart 2021 16:19:

    [...]

    Ik heb ze niet in mijn porto.... Gisteren mijn NEL positie helemaal teruggekocht die op resp. NOK 30 en NOK 32 had verkocht.

    Heb je verkocht voor of na de ATH van NEL?

    Het lijkt mij, dat wanneer je verkoop voor de ATH, je langzaam gek wordt van het nog verder omhoog kruipen van het aandeel. Dan wil je eigenlijk weer inkopen, terwijl deze hoger staat of moet je dan je zenuwen in bedwang houden en gewoon wachten totdat de koers weer daalt?

  3. forum rang 6 4finance 10 maart 2021 09:15
    quote:

    Gerald schreef op 10 maart 2021 08:55:

    [...]

    Heb je verkocht voor of na de ATH van NEL?

    Het lijkt mij, dat wanneer je verkoop voor de ATH, je langzaam gek wordt van het nog verder omhoog kruipen van het aandeel. Dan wil je eigenlijk weer inkopen, terwijl deze hoger staat of moet je dan je zenuwen in bedwang houden en gewoon wachten totdat de koers weer daalt?

    Ik had alleen mijn NEL aandelen verkocht die ik ooit op NOK 4.15 had gekocht. De andere aandelen NEL die ik "onderweg" in de oplopende koers had gekocht blijven in mijn porto. De NOK 4.15 aandelen waren in aantal aanzienlijk. Dus ik heb nu vele "gratis" aandelen NEL ;-)

  4. forum rang 6 4finance 10 maart 2021 09:45
    quote:

    Sander_zwi schreef op 10 maart 2021 09:29:

    Wat een volatiel aandeel is dit geworden..
    ALTIJD al geweest....

  5. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 10 maart 2021 09:52
    LONDON (ICIS)--Dutch fertilizer major OCI on Friday announced the signing of two memorandums of understanding (MoU) as it seeks to commercialise ammonia and methanol as the "shipping fuels of the future".

    The first pact is with MAN Energy Solutions (MAN) and Hartmann Gas Carriers Germany (Hartmann), under which OCI intends to charter ammonia vessels built, owned and operated by Hartmann and its commercial arm, GasChem Services. These vessels will be operated using ammonia engines designed by MAN.

    "The partnership aims to propel the commercialisation of ammonia-fueled vessels and accelerate the energy transition and decarbonisation of the shipping industry," OCI said in a lengthy news release.

    The second alliance involves MAN Energy Solutions and Eastern Pacific Shipping (EPS) and will target retrofitting existing vessels from EPS’ tanker fleet to use methanol and ammonia, as well as new-build methanol and ammonia-fuelled vessels.

    "The technology to retrofit a vessel to accept methanol as a fuel is available today and the intention is for OCI to charter the first retrofitted methanol fueled vessel operated by EPS using already in-service MAN engines and technology in the next two years," OCI explained.

    "Ammonia and methanol, OCI’s core products, are the only practical alternatives for long-distance shipping.

    "With global infrastructure in place, these products can bridge the transition from 'grey' to 'green' until the industry has fully scaled up to products based solely on renewable energy sources."

    OCI noted that, when compared to hydrogen and LNG, ammonia is widely used and easier to store with extensive global distribution and storage infrastructure in place.

    Converting all long-distance shipping fuel to ammonia would require 750-900m tonnes/year of new capacity by 2050, 4-5 times the current total global ammonia production, OCI added.

    For methanol, converting all long-distance shipping would require about 650-720m tonnes/year of new output by 2050, 6-7 times the current total global methanol production.

    Brian Ostergaard Sorensen, VP and Head of R&D, Two-Stroke Business at MAN, said: “We view these initiatives as closely aligned with our own strategy of cooperating with external partners to develop sustainable technologies.

    "Methanol and ammonia are very interesting candidates as zero-carbon fuels. In fact, we have already introduced a methanol-burning two-stroke engine, while we expect to deliver the first ammonia-fueled engine in 2024."

    With ammonia and methanol production assets in North America, Europe and the Middle East & North Africa (MENA), OCI believes it is well placed to capture new opportunities in both products.

    "[Nitrogen fertilizer producer] Fertiglobe particularly benefits from proximity to ample underutilised wind and solar generation capacity across the MENA, enabling stable production of green ammonia at a low cost," OCI said.

    "By 2030, Europe will likely not produce sufficient green hydrogen to meet their needs and is expected to depend on imports with the MENA region the most competitive alternative."

    Eastern Pacific Shipping CEO, Cyril Ducau, added: "Converting our existing conventional fleet to burn methanol creates a unique opportunity to continue lowering our carbon footprint significantly and rapidly.”

    OCI CEO, Ahmed El-Hoshy, concluded "Our products are perfectly positioned to fuel the transition and we believe the push towards low carbon fuels in the coming years will be met with the adoption of both methanol and ammonia as industry standard.

    "We see this as starting with the adoption of grey/blue methanol and ammonia and then shifting to green as production costs come down, customer appetites move towards green and regulations continue to develop.

    "We are confident ... existing vessels can economically convert their engines to use our low-carbon products and help the industry meet its goals."

    Any subsequent commercial agreements are subject to agreement on commercial terms and definitive documentation, the statement added.
  6. forum rang 6 4finance 10 maart 2021 10:06
    quote:

    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 10 maart 2021 09:52:

    LONDON (ICIS)--Dutch fertilizer major OCI on Friday announced the signing of two memorandums of understanding (MoU) as it seeks to commercialise ammonia and methanol as the "shipping fuels of the future".

    The first pact is with MAN Energy Solutions (MAN) and Hartmann Gas Carriers Germany (Hartmann), under which OCI intends to charter ammonia vessels built, owned and operated by Hartmann and its commercial arm, GasChem Services. These vessels will be operated using ammonia engines designed by MAN.

    "The partnership aims to propel the commercialisation of ammonia-fueled vessels and accelerate the energy transition and decarbonisation of the shipping industry," OCI said in a lengthy news release.

    The second alliance involves MAN Energy Solutions and Eastern Pacific Shipping (EPS) and will target retrofitting existing vessels from EPS’ tanker fleet to use methanol and ammonia, as well as new-build methanol and ammonia-fuelled vessels.

    "The technology to retrofit a vessel to accept methanol as a fuel is available today and the intention is for OCI to charter the first retrofitted methanol fueled vessel operated by EPS using already in-service MAN engines and technology in the next two years," OCI explained.

    "Ammonia and methanol, OCI’s core products, are the only practical alternatives for long-distance shipping.

    "With global infrastructure in place, these products can bridge the transition from 'grey' to 'green' until the industry has fully scaled up to products based solely on renewable energy sources."

    OCI noted that, when compared to hydrogen and LNG, ammonia is widely used and easier to store with extensive global distribution and storage infrastructure in place.

    Converting all long-distance shipping fuel to ammonia would require 750-900m tonnes/year of new capacity by 2050, 4-5 times the current total global ammonia production, OCI added.

    For methanol, converting all long-distance shipping would require about 650-720m tonnes/year of new output by 2050, 6-7 times the current total global methanol production.

    Brian Ostergaard Sorensen, VP and Head of R&D, Two-Stroke Business at MAN, said: “We view these initiatives as closely aligned with our own strategy of cooperating with external partners to develop sustainable technologies.

    "Methanol and ammonia are very interesting candidates as zero-carbon fuels. In fact, we have already introduced a methanol-burning two-stroke engine, while we expect to deliver the first ammonia-fueled engine in 2024."

    With ammonia and methanol production assets in North America, Europe and the Middle East & North Africa (MENA), OCI believes it is well placed to capture new opportunities in both products.

    "[Nitrogen fertilizer producer] Fertiglobe particularly benefits from proximity to ample underutilised wind and solar generation capacity across the MENA, enabling stable production of green ammonia at a low cost," OCI said.

    "By 2030, Europe will likely not produce sufficient green hydrogen to meet their needs and is expected to depend on imports with the MENA region the most competitive alternative."

    Eastern Pacific Shipping CEO, Cyril Ducau, added: "Converting our existing conventional fleet to burn methanol creates a unique opportunity to continue lowering our carbon footprint significantly and rapidly.”

    OCI CEO, Ahmed El-Hoshy, concluded "Our products are perfectly positioned to fuel the transition and we believe the push towards low carbon fuels in the coming years will be met with the adoption of both methanol and ammonia as industry standard.

    "We see this as starting with the adoption of grey/blue methanol and ammonia and then shifting to green as production costs come down, customer appetites move towards green and regulations continue to develop.

    "We are confident ... existing vessels can economically convert their engines to use our low-carbon products and help the industry meet its goals."

    Any subsequent commercial agreements are subject to agreement on commercial terms and definitive documentation, the statement added.
    @Ridder, dit is meer een post voor het SHELL forum. Klaarblijkelijk snapt je waterstof nog steeds niet.....

  7. cdbe 10 maart 2021 10:13
    Waterstof kan samen met stikstof uit de lucht (de atmosfeer bevat 78 procent stikstof) onder hoge druk en temperatuur omgevormd worden tot ammoniak (NH3). Ammoniak kan, in tegenstelling tot waterstofgas, in grote tanks als vloeistof worden opgeslagen.
  8. Gerald 10 maart 2021 11:37
    quote:

    cdbe schreef op 10 maart 2021 10:13:

    Waterstof kan samen met stikstof uit de lucht (de atmosfeer bevat 78 procent stikstof) onder hoge druk en temperatuur omgevormd worden tot ammoniak (NH3). Ammoniak kan, in tegenstelling tot waterstofgas, in grote tanks als vloeistof worden opgeslagen.
    Dan kan het met dezelfde actie omgekeerd weer omgezet worden tot bruikbare waterstof?
  9. forum rang 9 nine_inch_nerd 10 maart 2021 11:40
    quote:

    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 10 maart 2021 09:52:

    LONDON (ICIS)--Dutch fertilizer major OCI on Friday announced the signing of two memorandums of understanding (MoU) as it seeks to commercialise ammonia and methanol as the "shipping fuels of the future".

    The first pact is with MAN Energy Solutions (MAN) and Hartmann Gas Carriers Germany (Hartmann), under which OCI intends to charter ammonia vessels built, owned and operated by Hartmann and its commercial arm, GasChem Services. These vessels will be operated using ammonia engines designed by MAN.

    "The partnership aims to propel the commercialisation of ammonia-fueled vessels and accelerate the energy transition and decarbonisation of the shipping industry," OCI said in a lengthy news release.

    The second alliance involves MAN Energy Solutions and Eastern Pacific Shipping (EPS) and will target retrofitting existing vessels from EPS’ tanker fleet to use methanol and ammonia, as well as new-build methanol and ammonia-fuelled vessels.

    "The technology to retrofit a vessel to accept methanol as a fuel is available today and the intention is for OCI to charter the first retrofitted methanol fueled vessel operated by EPS using already in-service MAN engines and technology in the next two years," OCI explained.

    "Ammonia and methanol, OCI’s core products, are the only practical alternatives for long-distance shipping.

    "With global infrastructure in place, these products can bridge the transition from 'grey' to 'green' until the industry has fully scaled up to products based solely on renewable energy sources."

    OCI noted that, when compared to hydrogen and LNG, ammonia is widely used and easier to store with extensive global distribution and storage infrastructure in place.

    Converting all long-distance shipping fuel to ammonia would require 750-900m tonnes/year of new capacity by 2050, 4-5 times the current total global ammonia production, OCI added.

    For methanol, converting all long-distance shipping would require about 650-720m tonnes/year of new output by 2050, 6-7 times the current total global methanol production.

    Brian Ostergaard Sorensen, VP and Head of R&D, Two-Stroke Business at MAN, said: “We view these initiatives as closely aligned with our own strategy of cooperating with external partners to develop sustainable technologies.

    "Methanol and ammonia are very interesting candidates as zero-carbon fuels. In fact, we have already introduced a methanol-burning two-stroke engine, while we expect to deliver the first ammonia-fueled engine in 2024."

    With ammonia and methanol production assets in North America, Europe and the Middle East & North Africa (MENA), OCI believes it is well placed to capture new opportunities in both products.

    "[Nitrogen fertilizer producer] Fertiglobe particularly benefits from proximity to ample underutilised wind and solar generation capacity across the MENA, enabling stable production of green ammonia at a low cost," OCI said.

    "By 2030, Europe will likely not produce sufficient green hydrogen to meet their needs and is expected to depend on imports with the MENA region the most competitive alternative."

    Eastern Pacific Shipping CEO, Cyril Ducau, added: "Converting our existing conventional fleet to burn methanol creates a unique opportunity to continue lowering our carbon footprint significantly and rapidly.”

    OCI CEO, Ahmed El-Hoshy, concluded "Our products are perfectly positioned to fuel the transition and we believe the push towards low carbon fuels in the coming years will be met with the adoption of both methanol and ammonia as industry standard.

    "We see this as starting with the adoption of grey/blue methanol and ammonia and then shifting to green as production costs come down, customer appetites move towards green and regulations continue to develop.

    "We are confident ... existing vessels can economically convert their engines to use our low-carbon products and help the industry meet its goals."

    Any subsequent commercial agreements are subject to agreement on commercial terms and definitive documentation, the statement added.
    Dit is de langste one-liner die de ridder ooit geschreven heeft en dan ook nog in het Engels. Knap!
  10. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 10 maart 2021 11:43
    quote:

    4finance schreef op 10 maart 2021 10:06:

    [...]@Ridder, dit is meer een post voor het SHELL forum. Klaarblijkelijk snapt je waterstof nog steeds niet.....
    Nee, jij snapt het nog niet: ammoniak en methanol zijn veel goedkoper dan waterstof.
  11. cdbe 10 maart 2021 11:59
    quote:

    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 10 maart 2021 11:43:

    [...]

    Nee, jij snapt het nog niet: ammoniak en methanol zijn veel goedkoper dan waterstof.
    Jij ook niet dzr, het is een verbinding van stikstof en waterstof....
  12. forum rang 6 4finance 10 maart 2021 12:15
    quote:

    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 10 maart 2021 11:43:

    [...]

    Nee, jij snapt het nog niet: ammoniak en methanol zijn veel goedkoper dan waterstof.
    Ik ga geen moddergevecht met je voeren, maar je moet wel beter je huiswerk doen....
  13. Eric61 10 maart 2021 16:24
    Ik zit te wachten wat de koers gaat doen wanneer Nelleke nog meer aandeeltjes uitgeeft om dan terug te kopen.

    Ik heb bij 34, 34.5 en 35 winst genomen en met mijn suffe gezicht al 3 keer veel te duur terug gekocht.

    Eerste aankoop was iets onder de 6 kroontjes dus ik heb al het hobbeldebobbel meegemaakt en blijf bij mijn koersdoel van 40 plus

    Wij schrokken op een gegeven moment niet meer van dagen met 15% min en draaide gewoon een muziekje maar dit mag helaas niet meer.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMmTkKz60W8

  14. forum rang 6 4finance 10 maart 2021 16:34
    quote:

    Eric61 schreef op 10 maart 2021 16:24:

    Ik zit te wachten wat de koers gaat doen wanneer Nelleke nog meer aandeeltjes uitgeeft om dan terug te kopen.

    Ik heb bij 34, 34.5 en 35 winst genomen en met mijn suffe gezicht al 3 keer veel te duur terug gekocht.

    Eerste aankoop was iets onder de 6 kroontjes dus ik heb al het hobbeldebobbel meegemaakt en blijf bij mijn koersdoel van 40 plus

    Wij schrokken op een gegeven moment niet meer van dagen met 15% min en draaide gewoon een muziekje maar dit mag helaas niet meer.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMmTkKz60W8

    Gewoon muziek draaien ;-)

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